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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grimn" data-source="post: 1620465" data-attributes="member: 8320">I picked it up a couple of days ago. And it’s a revised Book of 3 Circles.That's a good thing. Much of Bo3C was broken or in desperate need of changing. There were a number of spells left out of Savant & Sorcerer that were in Bo3C so the old book isn't totally worthless. The Artifact creation rules are a massive improvement over the old ones. The guidelines for what it actually takes for a character to build all of that cool First Age technology is an incredible help. I mean what budding Twilight artificer won't be drooling over a First Age Factory-Cathedral? The bits on designing artifacts are generally useful. In S&S there's now 30 pages on Warstriders. Adding two new classes, the Scout and the Juggernaut. And guidelines for built in weapons. The biggest difference between the two is the section on Demesnes and Manses and the chapter on Summoning. There is no longer a chapter full of Hearthstones. Now everything you could want to know about capping a Demesne and creating it into a manse is there. The chapter on summoning is fantastic. Need to summon 1000 demons to complete a specific task? Sure. Go for it. You can certainty try. Need a talon of demonic infantry for a single battle? You're covered. Also there are guidelines for giving summoned demons virtue flaws and limit breaks. This is the best part of the entire book. It makes controlling the demon not necessarily hard, but something that the Summoner needs to keep in mind lest the demon snap. The Virtue flaws also reinforce how utterly alien the demons truly are.Overall it's an improvement. Bo3C is still generally useful for the extra spells and hearthstones, but the quality of Savant & Sorcerer overshadows a lot of the book. I don't mind. S&S is a better book and Bo3C came out quite a while ago. -Nathan</blockquote>

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