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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5258941" data-attributes="member: 78116">An encounter stance that does that for the Knight might as well make all their at-wills for the rest of their career utterly pointless <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />. There would never be a reason not to take it over the minor benefits I've seen their at-will stances grant.1[W] autodamage is pretty huge.Makes it even better! Then it triggers a whole bunch of things that trigger on making attacks too.That's the point. Fighter stances are damn good and if the Knight can take them there is absolutely no reason not to. They will lose all their at-will stances, but who cares: their stances are unlikely to be anywhere near as good as an automatic 1[W] damage or many of the other awesome stances fighters get already.Bear in mind that I'm responding to the assertion that I'm assuming the PHB fighter can get better stances. I'm not just assuming this, I'm absolutely betting on it because unless the knight can get 2 stances at once, he's unlikely to get long encounter length stances of the quality of the PHB fighter. Otherwise it becomes this weird class that cannot use a giant chunk of its powers - you might have noticed they are all stances <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />. At the same time, this could be the intention as a class that is "activate this stance" then roll dice for the rest of the encounter could be intentional. So something like Rain of Steel, a fairly low level but pretty solid fighter stance is the baseline to me. Will they get a stance that can match that? Because if not, the Knight isn't even going to outdo the original fighter in something that should be his backyard.</blockquote>

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