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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mkill" data-source="post: 5262576" data-attributes="member: 55985">Rain of Blows requires Dex 15. That's a high price to pay for a build that only gets race bonuses to off-stats.Besides, even if Rain of Blows lets you attack 3 times, it's only worth it at high levels when your damage bonuses are high enough. Before Paragon, it's no better than other stuff you get at level 3. You're better off if you dump Dex and take Sweeping Blow instead.So yeah, I can make you a nice PHB-only Tiefling Fighter with a flail. Grab Hellfire Blood and a Flaming Weapon. However, once you hit Paragon you really want to add Martial Power to the available sources, for the Tiefling Warfiend PP. Just sayin'.Oh, and again I don't get the point you're trying to make here. I assume it's something about "life would suck if WotC drops support for PHB fighters". Well, it wouldn't really be a big deal. After 2 splatbooks and some Dragon articles, there isn't much more the class needs.Oh, and back to the topic of the thread, I'm pretty sure Tieflings will make awesome Knights too! (Even with flails).</blockquote>