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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5258005" data-attributes="member: 1210">There was no "rate of fire" for melee weapons; all weapon speed meant was that you attacked sooner or later in the round, not more or less often.Kits were terrible, horribly unbalanced and one of the most omni-banned bits of 2e IME. Even so, the amount of differentiation with weapon styles in 2e was laughable. What was there that didn't come straight out of the weapons' stats themselves? What was there that was user-based? Usually a bonus to attack and damage. That's it.There is a whole world of difference in terms of how different fighting styles work in 4e, though- a huge, immediately noticeable difference in how an axe-wielding fighter compares to a glaive-wielding fighter, for instance. As to whether an Essentials fighter is better or worse than a PH fighter: looks to me like it depends on the circumstances. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. That's good- that's how it should be. Each should sometimes have an edge; that way they end up (dare I say it?) compatible.</blockquote>