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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5258510" data-attributes="member: 78116"><p>Assuming you had the correct stance up at the beginning, which again is the entire point I'm trying to make here. If you're in one stance advantageous one round and then are dazed the next, you can end up in an entirely useless stance as you get cut off <em>from your at-will powers</em>. Also, not to be petty but the Knight doesn't mark adjacent foes whatsoever and has an aura with a -2 penalty, which doesn't interact with normal marks. This is important terminology, because the aura does not mark so won't interact with things that enhance or trigger off marks. </p><p></p><p>One of the core problems I see with the Knight is how they enforce enemies to stand next to them, because a fighter with the other charge power I know will be super sticky to those enemies he marked. Without knowing the Knights mark enforcement, which is hopefully an immediate interrupt or similar attack when an enemy shifts out of its aura - his aura is nowhere near as worthwhile as the fighters mark. Not to mention unlike the normal fighter, the Knight doesn't get + wisdom to OAs, so if an enemy walks away there isn't a lot the knight can do about that at all.</p><p></p><p>And again, if you take one of the currently excellent fighter daily stances (I think it's been confirmed essentials classes can take powers from the original class, but not vice versa), then he gets cut off from all his at-wills entirely. Then again, a stance to deal 1[W] damage for every enemy starting adjacent like Rain of Steel is infinitely better than a minor +2 to damage on an MBA. </p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the actual fighter gets his excellent stance cake and doesn't lose any powers in the process to use it (except another choice of another excellent stance).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5258510, member: 78116"] Assuming you had the correct stance up at the beginning, which again is the entire point I'm trying to make here. If you're in one stance advantageous one round and then are dazed the next, you can end up in an entirely useless stance as you get cut off [i]from your at-will powers[/i]. Also, not to be petty but the Knight doesn't mark adjacent foes whatsoever and has an aura with a -2 penalty, which doesn't interact with normal marks. This is important terminology, because the aura does not mark so won't interact with things that enhance or trigger off marks. One of the core problems I see with the Knight is how they enforce enemies to stand next to them, because a fighter with the other charge power I know will be super sticky to those enemies he marked. Without knowing the Knights mark enforcement, which is hopefully an immediate interrupt or similar attack when an enemy shifts out of its aura - his aura is nowhere near as worthwhile as the fighters mark. Not to mention unlike the normal fighter, the Knight doesn't get + wisdom to OAs, so if an enemy walks away there isn't a lot the knight can do about that at all. And again, if you take one of the currently excellent fighter daily stances (I think it's been confirmed essentials classes can take powers from the original class, but not vice versa), then he gets cut off from all his at-wills entirely. Then again, a stance to deal 1[W] damage for every enemy starting adjacent like Rain of Steel is infinitely better than a minor +2 to damage on an MBA. Meanwhile the actual fighter gets his excellent stance cake and doesn't lose any powers in the process to use it (except another choice of another excellent stance). [/QUOTE]
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