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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5261082" data-attributes="member: 78116">Teleportation is always better than a Shift. There are very few exceptions to this and the difference between teleporting and shifting is huge. If you can't see why shifting isn't as good as teleporting, try playing 4E on non-planet bowling ball? That is a massive difference.Not to pick on your example, but if you can't see teleporting is a massive mechanical advantage over shifting you're never going to be convinced of anything.Such characters exist, Revenants and Warforged I think can both get feats that let them continue doing this.But again, this isn't something given to you for a free lunch, you need to pay for such advantages.There are such abilities in 4E, but you pay for them.We're not going back to the days where people got obscenely overpowered things and pretended "roleplaying" balanced them.Every time you claim this, I die a little inside.Do you play on planet bowling ball with no terrain? Monsters that do nothing to shifting or movement (like immobilize). Never seen a monster that restrains or grabs? I mean, this is the WORST possible example you could pick. The differences between teleporting and shifting are ginormous. When you throw terrain, monsters and effects into this it's nowhere near "subtle" in terms of differences.</blockquote>