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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5403275" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>Anyway, to try and find a solution for your actual original question... what is the rest of your character like? What weapons specifically are you trying to find a way to wield? </p><p> </p><p>I know most of these options have come up already in the thread, but wanted to try and run down a comprehensive list of choices...</p><p> </p><p>I'm not sure of any way to actually use a 2-handed weapon like a falchion. </p><p> </p><p>The staff is available via the Sneaky Staff feat (which gives you both sneak attack and your weapon finesse bonuses with it), and makes the staff a decent option overall - accuracy is low (though Thieves can make up for that in other ways), but there is good feat support; extended reach, reliable combat advantage at Paragon, etc. </p><p> </p><p>Dwarves can use Warhammer via Lethal Hammer Training, or any one-handed axe/hammer/pick via Tunnel Stalker - though that one costs you a die of sneak attack. </p><p> </p><p>Moonbow Stalker gives rogues access to shortbows, but I think Thieves get that access automatically. </p><p> </p><p>Rogues can get access to using clubs and maces, as an others via a rogue multi-class feat - but, unfortunately, that means Thieves are left out, since they don't get Rogue Weapon Training, but still aren't allowed to take Rogue Multi-class feats. A shame, because using clubs means, I believe, that you can use the Belt of the Brawler to instead use unarmed attacks and improvised weapons. </p><p> </p><p>And, of course, you can always just dual-wield, having a sneak attack usable weapon in one hand, and a non-sneak attack weapon for when you don't have combat advantage.</p><p> </p><p>Outside of that, reflavoring does seem the best bet. You might also see if you can hunt down any weapon that has multiple weapon types, letting one of the above feats make it qualify for use - I couldn't find anything in the Compendium, but the Compendium is trash for trying to search for ordinary weapons, so that doesn't mean there isn't a good option out there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5403275, member: 61155"] Anyway, to try and find a solution for your actual original question... what is the rest of your character like? What weapons specifically are you trying to find a way to wield? I know most of these options have come up already in the thread, but wanted to try and run down a comprehensive list of choices... I'm not sure of any way to actually use a 2-handed weapon like a falchion. The staff is available via the Sneaky Staff feat (which gives you both sneak attack and your weapon finesse bonuses with it), and makes the staff a decent option overall - accuracy is low (though Thieves can make up for that in other ways), but there is good feat support; extended reach, reliable combat advantage at Paragon, etc. Dwarves can use Warhammer via Lethal Hammer Training, or any one-handed axe/hammer/pick via Tunnel Stalker - though that one costs you a die of sneak attack. Moonbow Stalker gives rogues access to shortbows, but I think Thieves get that access automatically. Rogues can get access to using clubs and maces, as an others via a rogue multi-class feat - but, unfortunately, that means Thieves are left out, since they don't get Rogue Weapon Training, but still aren't allowed to take Rogue Multi-class feats. A shame, because using clubs means, I believe, that you can use the Belt of the Brawler to instead use unarmed attacks and improvised weapons. And, of course, you can always just dual-wield, having a sneak attack usable weapon in one hand, and a non-sneak attack weapon for when you don't have combat advantage. Outside of that, reflavoring does seem the best bet. You might also see if you can hunt down any weapon that has multiple weapon types, letting one of the above feats make it qualify for use - I couldn't find anything in the Compendium, but the Compendium is trash for trying to search for ordinary weapons, so that doesn't mean there isn't a good option out there. [/QUOTE]
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