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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jaeger" data-source="post: 8665835" data-attributes="member: 27996">My info may be dated as it's hard to keep up with things in countries that you do not speak the language in, so:The Dark Eye from Germany, which still (just) beats out D&D there. I think...Trudvang Chronicles which is Drakar och Demoner in Sweden.Sword World - Japan - Beat D&D, but the crown was given up to CoC 5+ years ago though.Tormenta - Brazil (Evidently a d20 based system)Evidently Warhammer Fantasy 2e was really big in Poland and beat D&D there for a long time. Who Knew...Worth noting though that every single one was a reaction to a translation of D&D in their home market. As TSR was unable for a variety of reasons to continue to provide translations of supplements or new editions; the native products were able to move in and fill the void D&D left.This made it much harder for D&D to gain a meaningful foothold when it "came back" with later translations because there was an active home grown competitor that had already established a dominant network effect.CoC in Japan is a little bit fuzzier as there were IMHO several cultural and market specific reasons why it eventually rose to prominence in that country. But D&D was largely suppressed by Sword World at the time as well.Those games simply prove the point that there is nothing inherently "superior" about d20/D&D as a system. As the other games more or less hit on the same 5 points that D&D did as I mentioned above, and were Good Enough; Being able to establish a dominant player network effect in D&D's absence allowed them to assume the same 'market leader' status in their home countries that D&D enjoys in the US.</blockquote>

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