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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6156841" data-attributes="member: 22779">How is it a great way of avoiding predetermined outcomes?  An Area of Effect SOD effect against 4 or more PC's is almost 100% likely (about 95% actually) to kill at least one PC.  That's about as predetermined as you can get.Note, a red dragon vs an appropriate level party likely won't result in PC fatality.  Granted, bombing 1st level parties will, but, that's not quite what I said.  I said against ANY level party.  Red Dragon vs appropriate level won't result in fatalities most of the time.  That's because dragons are well designed.Rolling for ability scores would be fine except for the human element.  For one, baked right into the mechanics is the "hopeless character" clause, meaning that it's not truly random.  But, for another, most people cheat when die rolling characters.  I've seen far too many die rolled characters to believe that it's straight die rolls.  There's a reason that point buy is standard in 3e organized play and standard in all 4e play.  It removes the random element which plays all sorts of silly buggers with the game math.  But, if you don't believe me that people cheat, take the character sheets that you have in your current campaign of all your players and add up their point buy value.  The majority will be 30 point buy or more.  Meaning those die rolled characters are about one level ahead of a point buy character.Which is fine, once you factor that into campaign design, but, it also means more work for the DM.</blockquote>

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