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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6159408" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>Are they universally available, or tightly guarded secrets? Can any peasant access teleportation magic? If so, why are there still so many dangerous, evil monsters running around when everyone can access powerful magic?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And character building rules typically seek to make the available options explicit, and draw the "BS Line".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm a 500 year old elf. I've spent WAY more time in dozens of environments than ANY starting Human adventurer could have spent in even ONE. But I have the same skill ranks as any other L1 character. I think the latter is equitable.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's far better than "Diplomacy, Bluff and Intimidate succeeds and fails on whether the GM is impressed with the player's speech and/or wants the target to be influenced". YMMV</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In your opinion. Why can't I use "Local Knowledge" to read , speak and understand a local language? Aren't the words and writing "local" enough for you?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then we disagree. And I'd say the specific disagreement is whether Knowledge should be a Trained skill. I don't care how smart that Wizard is - without religious training, there is knowledge of religion he has simply never been exposed to. Similarly, his book learning doesn't tell him which mushrooms are safe to eat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Roll 20 on Use Magic Device or Handle Animal with no skill ranks. It is different because trained and untrained skills are different. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that is why your Bodak encounter did not result in wide scale fatalities - luck.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Complete aside, but I'm not seeing that suggesting great restrictions on raising the dead. It seems like something anyone with gold can do. Mind you, if Teleport is a routine travel means available to the peasants, then Raise Dead is probably pretty common too without adding in some restrictions to prevent universality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So he was played with the same level of tactics and strategy as a 10 INT fighter? It seems that your expectation of "standard PC knowledge and tactics" is a lot greater than for this Bodak of similar intellect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6159408, member: 6681948"] Are they universally available, or tightly guarded secrets? Can any peasant access teleportation magic? If so, why are there still so many dangerous, evil monsters running around when everyone can access powerful magic? And character building rules typically seek to make the available options explicit, and draw the "BS Line". I'm a 500 year old elf. I've spent WAY more time in dozens of environments than ANY starting Human adventurer could have spent in even ONE. But I have the same skill ranks as any other L1 character. I think the latter is equitable. I think it's far better than "Diplomacy, Bluff and Intimidate succeeds and fails on whether the GM is impressed with the player's speech and/or wants the target to be influenced". YMMV In your opinion. Why can't I use "Local Knowledge" to read , speak and understand a local language? Aren't the words and writing "local" enough for you? Then we disagree. And I'd say the specific disagreement is whether Knowledge should be a Trained skill. I don't care how smart that Wizard is - without religious training, there is knowledge of religion he has simply never been exposed to. Similarly, his book learning doesn't tell him which mushrooms are safe to eat. Roll 20 on Use Magic Device or Handle Animal with no skill ranks. It is different because trained and untrained skills are different. And that is why your Bodak encounter did not result in wide scale fatalities - luck. Complete aside, but I'm not seeing that suggesting great restrictions on raising the dead. It seems like something anyone with gold can do. Mind you, if Teleport is a routine travel means available to the peasants, then Raise Dead is probably pretty common too without adding in some restrictions to prevent universality. So he was played with the same level of tactics and strategy as a 10 INT fighter? It seems that your expectation of "standard PC knowledge and tactics" is a lot greater than for this Bodak of similar intellect. [/QUOTE]
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