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<blockquote data-quote="3catcircus" data-source="post: 7832553" data-attributes="member: 16077">The only thing you are missing is that the rogue also couldn't kill the dragon that easily - highly likely the only result (and the only result that deserves to happen from a 1st level party attacking an ancient red dragon) is a TPK.&nbsp; Invincibility??&nbsp; A 1st level rogue doing a sneak attack is gonna only do an additional 1d6 damage.&nbsp; Assuming a crit on a sneak attack using a short sword, one could assume a Max of 24 plus STR or DEX - assume DEX 18 and it is a Max of 28 points.&nbsp; That would do a moderate wound which, combined with the existing moderate wound would put the dragon into a serious wound.&nbsp; A 2nd crit sneak attack would only do 28 points max - you'd need to do a minimum of 38 damage to inflict a 2nd serious wound to result in a critical wound.&nbsp; You could end up with a dragon that fails multiple CON checks from moderate or serious wounds leading to shock and eventually instability, but with a CON of 29, it's extremely unlikely unless the DM fumbles the roll.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="3catcircus, post: 7832553, member: 16077"] The only thing you are missing is that the rogue also couldn't kill the dragon that easily - highly likely the only result (and the only result that deserves to happen from a 1st level party attacking an ancient red dragon) is a TPK. Invincibility?? A 1st level rogue doing a sneak attack is gonna only do an additional 1d6 damage. Assuming a crit on a sneak attack using a short sword, one could assume a Max of 24 plus STR or DEX - assume DEX 18 and it is a Max of 28 points. That would do a moderate wound which, combined with the existing moderate wound would put the dragon into a serious wound. A 2nd crit sneak attack would only do 28 points max - you'd need to do a minimum of 38 damage to inflict a 2nd serious wound to result in a critical wound. You [I]could[/I] end up with a dragon that fails multiple CON checks from moderate or serious wounds leading to shock and eventually instability, but with a CON of 29, it's extremely unlikely unless the DM fumbles the roll. [/QUOTE]

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