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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6080875">The thing I've always disliked about appearance scores is that one of the great aspects of D&amp;D is the ability to imagine your character any way your choose.&nbsp; You can be a sexy, busty bar-wench...with low charisma, and you can be a silver-tongued devil who looks like he had too many run-ins with the wrong end of a horse but have a high cha score.&nbsp; I don't like game mechanics that attempt to tell you the specifics of your character's appearance.&nbsp; Sure, you're an elf, you're usually slim and have pointy ears and strong facial features.What's worse is that &quot;good looks&quot; are subjective.&nbsp; Can my character look like Kate Moss, whom I find totally hot and have an 18 cha?&nbsp; Or does she have to look like J-lo?&nbsp; Can by wizard look like Gandalf and still be considered sexy?&nbsp; Is it an old-guy kinda sexy or does he have to look like Orlando Bloom with a beard?&nbsp; Does being old automatically mean I'm less attractive?&nbsp; Does being young guarantee I'm pretty?&nbsp; What if I think self-confidence is amazingly, incredibly, super hot?Let players decide their looks.&nbsp; Let the game determine how well they can use them.Personally I think Charisma has picked up those &quot;willpower&quot; aspects of wisdom, and I'm fine with that.&nbsp; But I do generally think wisdom represents your self-enlightenment AND general awareness.&nbsp; Personally....I ignore what games say the mental stats represent.&nbsp; It's too subjective.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6080875"] The thing I've always disliked about appearance scores is that one of the great aspects of D&D is the ability to imagine your character any way your choose. You can be a sexy, busty bar-wench...with low charisma, and you can be a silver-tongued devil who looks like he had too many run-ins with the wrong end of a horse but have a high cha score. I don't like game mechanics that attempt to tell you the specifics of your character's appearance. Sure, you're an elf, you're usually slim and have pointy ears and strong facial features. What's worse is that "good looks" are subjective. Can my character look like Kate Moss, whom I find totally hot and have an 18 cha? Or does she have to look like J-lo? Can by wizard look like Gandalf and still be considered sexy? Is it an old-guy kinda sexy or does he have to look like Orlando Bloom with a beard? Does being old automatically mean I'm less attractive? Does being young guarantee I'm pretty? What if I think self-confidence is amazingly, incredibly, super hot? Let players decide their looks. Let the game determine how well they can use them. Personally I think Charisma has picked up those "willpower" aspects of wisdom, and I'm fine with that. But I do generally think wisdom represents your self-enlightenment AND general awareness. Personally....I ignore what games say the mental stats represent. It's too subjective. [/QUOTE]

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