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<blockquote data-quote="Junkheap" data-source="post: 263279" data-attributes="member: 768">Ok, i don't want to take this thread off topic, but it frustrates me when people dont read previous posts before they answer. Sure miracle can't give you abilitly raises by casing it.&nbsp; EVERYONE KNOWS THAT! BUT miracle can be used to make 1 - Ring of wishes2 - ALL the enhancement to ability items.&nbsp; NOW, that being said, how does miracle NOT help you with getting abilities raised?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />&nbsp;&nbsp; It is the exact same thing as using a wish spell.&nbsp; Its like saying an 18th lvl cleric cant cast mass haste or polymorph other or wall of force or disintergrate.&nbsp; Sure he can.&nbsp; Just because he cast's miralce to do it doesn't mean he can't.You are just side stepping the issue.&nbsp; The end result is the same, with no more XP loss.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Junkheap, post: 263279, member: 768"] Ok, i don't want to take this thread off topic, but it frustrates me when people dont read previous posts before they answer. Sure miracle can't give you abilitly raises by casing it. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT! BUT miracle can be used to make 1 - Ring of wishes 2 - ALL the enhancement to ability items. NOW, that being said, how does miracle NOT help you with getting abilities raised?:confused: It is the exact same thing as using a wish spell. Its like saying an 18th lvl cleric cant cast mass haste or polymorph other or wall of force or disintergrate. Sure he can. Just because he cast's miralce to do it doesn't mean he can't. You are just side stepping the issue. The end result is the same, with no more XP loss. [/QUOTE]

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