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<blockquote data-quote="Dastari" data-source="post: 3294791" data-attributes="member: 38358"><p>Ah, well I started off posting on the Wizards of the Coast boards and I was posting them one at a time but with more detail. Then I found that no one seemed to have any interest so I decided to post brief descriptions of the whole pantheon. That seemed to stimulate a little comment but not much. That's when I decided to cross post on these boards. </p><p></p><p>Basically I was annoyed that orcs only typically had six deities: Bahgtru, Gruumsh, Ilneval, Luthic, Shargaas, and Yurtrus but elves and dwarves have three of four times that many. It seemed to me that a more primitive race should have at least as many deities as elves or dwarves, probably even more. </p><p></p><p>However, if you are interested in learning more about these deities and seeing individual posts for them, then I recommend that you go look at what I've already done for <a href="http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=756977" target="_blank">Bahgtru</a> and <a href="http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=770657" target="_blank">Bargvar</a>. Those pages have my complete descriptions of the deities including information about sacred animals, priests, holy days, sacrifices and even some stats in the style of <em>Deities and Demigods</em>. I know that many people disagree with statting deities but if you don't like that part you don't have to read it. Read it for the content instead. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have been pleasantly surprised by how well received those two have been. I hear many comments about Ezric. What I most wanted to do with the orc pantheon is to twist common conceptions so even though Ezric is the goddess of love she likes to see that love expressed in violent ways. We've also got Farok the god of Fate who isn't above a little bribery. Its those sorts of things that interested me which is why I had such fun creating this pantheon. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, you completely understand what I was doing. My idea is that most of the early generation of orc deities (the parents of Gruumsh, Ilneval, Garthel, and many others) were either killed off by Gruumsh or like Farok or Touvos posed no threat to Gruumsh. The main reason why Bargvar left or was exiled is because he is slowly becoming as powerful as Gruumsh and Gruumsh would not have allowed him to live for long if he remained in the pantheon. Farok still doesn't pose a threat and serves a useful purpose. Touvos was exiled even though he doesn't pose a physical threat to Gruumsh but because he poses a philosophical one. So the idea is that now that Gruumsh is top dog, he doesn't allow anyone to get beyond Lesser Deity or he puts them out of the way. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is a very good idea and I'll get to working on that probably tomorrow. The main reason why I posted this list is to see what people thought and if they could give me some further ideas as to how to develop or modify the pantheon and I think that this is a good way of moving forward. </p><p></p><p>I also don't mind if anyone adds to pantheon because my idea of orcs is that each tribe probably has many deities that are unknown to other tribes. These 26 that I have posted are the ones that I feel have the most appeal and are worshipped the most widely but that doesn't mean that there are far more on the local level that maybe only one tribe worships. </p><p></p><p>Thanks again for the feedback!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dastari, post: 3294791, member: 38358"] Ah, well I started off posting on the Wizards of the Coast boards and I was posting them one at a time but with more detail. Then I found that no one seemed to have any interest so I decided to post brief descriptions of the whole pantheon. That seemed to stimulate a little comment but not much. That's when I decided to cross post on these boards. Basically I was annoyed that orcs only typically had six deities: Bahgtru, Gruumsh, Ilneval, Luthic, Shargaas, and Yurtrus but elves and dwarves have three of four times that many. It seemed to me that a more primitive race should have at least as many deities as elves or dwarves, probably even more. However, if you are interested in learning more about these deities and seeing individual posts for them, then I recommend that you go look at what I've already done for [URL="http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=756977"]Bahgtru[/URL] and [URL="http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=770657"]Bargvar[/URL]. Those pages have my complete descriptions of the deities including information about sacred animals, priests, holy days, sacrifices and even some stats in the style of [I]Deities and Demigods[/I]. I know that many people disagree with statting deities but if you don't like that part you don't have to read it. Read it for the content instead. I have been pleasantly surprised by how well received those two have been. I hear many comments about Ezric. What I most wanted to do with the orc pantheon is to twist common conceptions so even though Ezric is the goddess of love she likes to see that love expressed in violent ways. We've also got Farok the god of Fate who isn't above a little bribery. Its those sorts of things that interested me which is why I had such fun creating this pantheon. Yeah, you completely understand what I was doing. My idea is that most of the early generation of orc deities (the parents of Gruumsh, Ilneval, Garthel, and many others) were either killed off by Gruumsh or like Farok or Touvos posed no threat to Gruumsh. The main reason why Bargvar left or was exiled is because he is slowly becoming as powerful as Gruumsh and Gruumsh would not have allowed him to live for long if he remained in the pantheon. Farok still doesn't pose a threat and serves a useful purpose. Touvos was exiled even though he doesn't pose a physical threat to Gruumsh but because he poses a philosophical one. So the idea is that now that Gruumsh is top dog, he doesn't allow anyone to get beyond Lesser Deity or he puts them out of the way. That is a very good idea and I'll get to working on that probably tomorrow. The main reason why I posted this list is to see what people thought and if they could give me some further ideas as to how to develop or modify the pantheon and I think that this is a good way of moving forward. I also don't mind if anyone adds to pantheon because my idea of orcs is that each tribe probably has many deities that are unknown to other tribes. These 26 that I have posted are the ones that I feel have the most appeal and are worshipped the most widely but that doesn't mean that there are far more on the local level that maybe only one tribe worships. Thanks again for the feedback! [/QUOTE]
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