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<blockquote data-quote="reiella" data-source="post: 1445551" data-attributes="member: 160">Off hand, I can't think of a class, but for 3.5 monsters, I can think of some.Poison for instance <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. [especially true of the stronger poisons]Ah, the Slime Lord, although it's just paralyzing touch, but again it isn't necessarily kill.Drunken Master [Breath of Flame is Con DC based], but it's only 3d12 damage.Stonelord [all Stone Power are Con based, only effective on Earthquake]But again, this is for 'typical' balance (And not for situations involving Savage Species criteria, as that just gets ugly anyway <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.&nbsp; And I agree that physical stats are often far to malleable to base DCs off of reliably.&nbsp; Most of the abilities in PrC are often for a single use [and I agree with you on this, Psi, I'm just providing some of the very few examples of Con [physical] based-DCs that players have access to ].</blockquote>

[QUOTE="reiella, post: 1445551, member: 160"] Off hand, I can't think of a class, but for 3.5 monsters, I can think of some. Poison for instance :). [especially true of the stronger poisons] Ah, the Slime Lord, although it's just paralyzing touch, but again it isn't necessarily kill. Drunken Master [Breath of Flame is Con DC based], but it's only 3d12 damage. Stonelord [all Stone Power are Con based, only effective on Earthquake] But again, this is for 'typical' balance (And not for situations involving Savage Species criteria, as that just gets ugly anyway :). And I agree that physical stats are often far to malleable to base DCs off of reliably. Most of the abilities in PrC are often for a single use [and I agree with you on this, Psi, I'm just providing some of the very few examples of Con [physical] based-DCs that players have access to ]. [/QUOTE]

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