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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SBMC" data-source="post: 2467796" data-attributes="member: 30040">err...This is better but I agree that the class has a bit much - a lot more than most other classes get. The Feat every other level is also extreme. Except for the fighter most other core classes have no "choice" of abilities or feats the get or they two, perhaps three (such as the Monk and Ranger) at a certain level.Additionally, this class still has zero offensive abilities. Seeing as combat takes up so much of the DnD game this is indeed a significant downfall. In that sense, regardless of anything else it is of little use as a PC class. In addition exactly how many times per day would "luck" actually need to be used? The max recommended encounters are 4 per day...It seems as if you are using this “luck” ability in place of spell casting; but the luck bit is so limited in use.Perhaps taking those feats of yours and sticking those in as core abilities and decreasing the progression of "luck" (which I think is way to powerful) and getting rid of so many bonus feats.Another angle of opposition: Sure the player might have a blast playing a character such as this. However what can this guy do for anybody else? The Fighter can fight, the Wizard can cast spells, the rouge backstab and flank, the Cleric turn - all of which helps the entire party. What exactly does this guy offer he party itself? When the #$$% hits the fan? What can his guy do besides protect himself? This is a loner class - not a class anyone in the party would want with them. I actually played with a similar character. The other player wanted a character such as this (well actually almost exactly like this). He took various Core and Prestige classes to get what he wanted then chose to essentially ignore his offensive abilities. However when it came down to it he was really of no use in the dungeon besides being a "scout" which the party rouge (if we had one at the time) could do better at. Sure when researching stuff and appraising the treasure he was great. Reading runes in the dungeons, Identifying monsters we faced and the like was handy but let me tell you - another Lightening bolt, volley of arrows or long sword would be far better. Which is why I had said this would be a great NPC class.  ---------------- Besides the overbearing feats and "luck" abilities this guy needs to do something in combat. I originally offered up "Archery" as an idea:  If ya don't like this then you could go with a "Ranger like" choice; such as Archery or Unarmed Combat. Or go with Sneak Attack or Skirmish - the concept would call for skirmish I would thinkAnother idea is to look at it this way - the Hexblade from Complete Warrior; if you follow that Curse and "Aura of Unluck" progression and idea (but reverse the effects) you would have a balanced "luck" ability.  Level     Ability1st        Curse 1/day2nd       Arcane resistance3rd        Mettle4th        Summon Familiar5th        Bonus feat, Curse 2/day6th        7th        Greater Hexblade curse8th        9th        Curse 3/day10th      Bonus Feat11th      12th      Aura of Unluck 1/day13th      Curse 4/day14th      15th      Bonus Feat16th      Aura of Unluck 2/day17th      Curse 5/day18th      19th      Dire Hexblades Curse20th      Aura of Unluck 3/day, Bonus Feat The Hexblade also gets spells and as noted above a familiar - but Instead of spells you can then perhaps add in your "Evasion" and like abilities. "Mettle" is like evasion against spells - and I honestly think that would be right in line with this concept. Take a peak t the "Dungeon Delver" from CA; that might have some things to add to this as well.</blockquote>

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