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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mlund" data-source="post: 6496278" data-attributes="member: 50304">Ah, I see that I'm confusing terms here. When I hear "Full Plate" in a D&D discussion I immediately think of the specific "more plate-y-than-plate" class of armor found in the 1st Edition AD&D Unearthed Arcana supplement. It has 2 steps better AC than "Plate Mail" and absorbs a limited amount of damage. Likewise "Field Plate" is 1 step above "Plate Mail" and 1 step below "Full Plate" and can likewise absorb damage. These are modeled after the renaissance-era final evolutions of real-world Plate Armor that were created in the ultimately futile arms race against black powder technology.I've been playing D&D versions and variants that have "Plate" or "Plate Mail" for a long time now, but have never seen a return to that "plate-y-er-than-play" Renaissance-era style that originally introduced "Full Plate" into the D&D lexicon. I've always seen D&D depictions of stock "Plate Mail" that look like plate from the end of the Middle Ages (1400) rather than the High Renaissance (1600).I've never played an edition of D&D with mass-production reduced plate, steel windlass crossbows, cannons, and muskets ala the 16th century. Generally I like to stay before the military establishment went entirely post-feudal, even if Britain was ahead of the curve with scutage.Basically the fall of Constantinople and black powder technology are my personal cut-off points for D&D, give or take. If I have to deal with cannons and black-powder and then I'd rather be playing some sort of Pirates/Redcoats/Musketeers thing like 7th Sea.Your mileage may vary.My region in Living Greyhawk must've just been weird, I guess. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />For all intents and purposes, though, Chain Mail Armor (the heavy, head-to-toe stuff, not the Light chain-shirt stuff if you remember it from 3E) might as well be Plate for all the good a slashing weapon like a longsword will do for you IRL. I remember fighting tons of humanoid monsters wearing chain-mail in AD&D and 3E. We probably just fought a disproportionate number of orcs, hobgoblins, soldiers, cultists, and evil adventuring parties, though.- Marty Lund</blockquote>

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