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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Legildur" data-source="post: 3810840" data-attributes="member: 1258">Okay then, let's test that a little...... from one of those threads I referenced, Skip (as the Sage, no less) is quoted as saying:"Sunder does indeed get its own entry in Table 8-2: Actions in Combat in the Player’s Handbook. It needs one because unlike a regular melee attack, sunder provokes an attack of opportunity (although not if you have the Improved Sunder feat)."So, by that reasoning, any other special attack that provokes an AOO should also have it's "own entry". And as Hyp goes on to point out, neither Disarm, Grapple, nor Trip have their "own entry".  Immediately Skip's interpretation in this case is questionable.And let's look at some other comments in that thread about Skip's reasoning for Sunder:"He's getting too much money and sits on his private island in the Carribean with beautiful women... that's why he does not have time to know the rules anymore.""No. He doesn't have a good excuse. This is just sloppy work." "I don't expect perfection, but I do expect a level of competence above the average player. This is far beneath that standard.""It couldn't be in any worse shape than having a guy putting out "official" clarifications that are WRONG.and, unfortunately, the sages answers are supposed to be reviewed by the actual designers before they are printed as eratta. Its pretty apparent that this is NOT happening.""Of course, given that I've had answers from the Sage that blatantly ignore the rules without any justification, and have become more than slightly disillusioned with the veracity of his answers.""...what gets everyone (including me) annoyed is, the man paid to get it RIGHT, apparently cannot even be bothered to do the same level of research - IOW, actually open the [censored] book - that the least rules-for-their-own-sake people here will do."And there's plenty more from where that came from.It's pretty clear that any clarification provided with dubious reference is not worth the paper it is written on, and plenty of people formed the same view.The same rule for Sunder (Standard Action) was carried across from 3.0e virtually unchanged.Maybe, just maybe, Skip got it wrong.Does the entry for Sunder in Table 8-2 carry footnote 7? No. Therefore it requires a Standard Action and is resolved by using a melee attack (with a bludgeoning or slashing weapon) to strike an object.</blockquote>

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