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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Legildur" data-source="post: 3815074" data-attributes="member: 1258">Saying 'have a nice day' at the end of a post where you accuse someone of selective quoting, being 'very sad', and 'nothing worthwhile to say' is insulting and condescending.If you'd bothered to read the earlier (extensive) threads on this subject (and many others), you'd realise that Hyp has a very high level of respect in this community for his 'rules fu'.  There is a good reason that his post count is quite high. Sure, his arguments can be excrutiatingly precise, but his understanding of the rules is not in question.The text for Sunder is ambiguous. The table is not. IF the RC comes out and changes that AND it is stated as errata, then well and good. Until then Sunder as a melee attack requires selective interpretation of the table to ignore the lack of 'action type varies' and the corresponding 'footnote 7'.It was a Standard Action in 3.0e, and so it remains in 3.5e (for the moment).</blockquote>