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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elethiomel" data-source="post: 3820161" data-attributes="member: 49897">Attack (melee) is a defined action that grants a melee attack. So is the Full Attack action, the Cast a Spell action (sometimes), and so on and so forth. Because Attack (melee) is not the only action that grants a melee attack, it doesn't have to be Action type: Varies. There are different actions with other names that grant melee attacks using other action types than a standard action, so Attack (melee) doesn't have to cover those action types. Sunder does, because it is listed on the table in only one place. Since that is under Standard Action, that's the action type you need to take in order to use Sunder.Sunder (attack) is a defined action that grants a melee attack that can be used against items. There is no defined action you can take that lets you sunder on any other attack, such as is defined for Disarm and Trip. You need to take the Sunder action in order for the description under "Sunder" to take effect, just like you have to take the Disarm action in order for the "Disarm" description to take effect, and the Attack (melee) action in order for the "Attack (melee)" description to take effect.Sunder's very presence on the table tells us that it is its own action. Sunder's presence under "Standard Action" tells us that it is its own standard action.</blockquote>