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<blockquote data-quote="Horwath" data-source="post: 8121375" data-attributes="member: 6801299">I like the faster spell level access for paladin and ranger, but I would not give extra spell slots over 1st one until they have 2nd and 3rd or 4th spell slots like in the PHB.that is paladin ranger should get for spell levels:1st level spell slots: 1 slot at level 1, 2 slots at level 2, 3 slots at level 3 and 4 slots at level 5.2nd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 3, 2 slots at level 5, 3 slots at level 7.3rd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 5, 2 slots at level 9, 3 slots at level 11.4th level spell slots: 1 slot at level 7, 2 slots at level 15, 3 slots at level 17.5th level spell slots: 1 slot at level 9, 2 slots at level 19.you still get access to spell levels as fast as a full caster, but additional spell slots are at the original power curve.also. is 3/4/5 cantrips known so overpowered that you reduced it to 2/3/4 known?unlike spell casters, martials have extra attack so cantrips compete for actions against good weapon attacks at 5th level.as for 1/3rd casters you can have:1st level spell slots: 2 slots at level 3, 3 slots at level 4, 4 slots at level 7.2nd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 3, 2 slots at level 7, 3 slots at level 10.3rd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 5, 2 slots at level 13, 3 slots at level 16.4th level spell slots: 1 slot at level 7and considering that you have very few spells known as 1/3 caster, it should not be too much of a problem for earlier access to higher level spells.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Horwath, post: 8121375, member: 6801299"] I like the faster spell level access for paladin and ranger, but I would not give extra spell slots over 1st one until they have 2nd and 3rd or 4th spell slots like in the PHB. that is paladin ranger should get for spell levels: 1st level spell slots: 1 slot at level 1, 2 slots at level 2, 3 slots at level 3 and 4 slots at level 5. 2nd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 3, 2 slots at level 5, 3 slots at level 7. 3rd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 5, 2 slots at level 9, 3 slots at level 11. 4th level spell slots: 1 slot at level 7, 2 slots at level 15, 3 slots at level 17. 5th level spell slots: 1 slot at level 9, 2 slots at level 19. you still get access to spell levels as fast as a full caster, but additional spell slots are at the original power curve. also. is 3/4/5 cantrips known so overpowered that you reduced it to 2/3/4 known? unlike spell casters, martials have extra attack so cantrips compete for actions against good weapon attacks at 5th level. as for 1/3rd casters you can have: 1st level spell slots: 2 slots at level 3, 3 slots at level 4, 4 slots at level 7. 2nd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 3, 2 slots at level 7, 3 slots at level 10. 3rd level spell slots: 1 slot at level 5, 2 slots at level 13, 3 slots at level 16. 4th level spell slots: 1 slot at level 7 and considering that you have very few spells known as 1/3 caster, it should not be too much of a problem for earlier access to higher level spells. [/QUOTE]

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