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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DaveMage" data-source="post: 4278343" data-attributes="member: 10447">I'm looking forward to the Pathfinder Beta because with the Alpha, part of the idea was to put a whole bunch of new stuff in there and see what people liked and what they didn't.Since Gen Con will be a Beta test, and for a few months after, I'd be surprised if the final version wasn't more recognizable to 3.x fans.Also, while I have many, many issues with 4E, I do believe there are a few things in there that could be ported to a 3.5 game to make it better.  The idea of rituals (although not the way 4E implemented them - I'd limit them to spellcasters) seems pretty cool to me, so if things like that were to somehow make it into Pathfinder I wouldn't be disappointed.</blockquote>