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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8570420" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>Well actually, some Halflings used to have Darkvision, though the current rules don't allow for Stout/Tallfellow/Hairfoot. We do currently have Ghostwise Halflings, though I don't think we've seen Strongheart yet.</p><p></p><p>Here's the thing- 5e seems to be increasingly heading towards a system where Ability Scores and Races are not tied to one another, presumably in an effort to avoid pigeonholing Race X into Class Y but not Z. I'm not 100% sure about this approach, but their new content indicates that this is likely. The whole point of this thread was, since the went out of their way to make Small or Medium size a choice for some races, whether or not this trend would continue to make there a solid reason to choose Small over Medium, since, while Small has a few fringe benefits (Mounted Combat, which, uh, does anyone use it? All I've seen is arguments about how it works. Squeezing through smaller spaces, which is apparently not super valuable because Bugbears now gain it as part of their Stealthy. So that leaves us with- possibly getting more benefit from Cover/Concealment and moving through Large creature spaces), it also comes with a less fringe penalty, depending on your Class choice (some classes don't care about heavy weapons).</p><p></p><p>They probably won't. But I thought it might be fun to speculate on whether or not they could. But now we're debating things like how it doesn't feel right for Halflings to be able to hit Strength 20, which is already something they could do, just now they are allowed to do it faster.</p><p></p><p>That ship, I'm afraid, has sailed. WotC, by publishing MMM, has said, yes, going forward, this is the way it will be. So whether we like it or not likely doesn't matter*. The game has no stat penalties, and any character can reach the maximum in any ability score.</p><p></p><p>*Unless people vote with their wallets and don't buy the new products, that is. But then we'll be splitting the community into people who play O5e and N5e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8570420, member: 6877472"] Well actually, some Halflings used to have Darkvision, though the current rules don't allow for Stout/Tallfellow/Hairfoot. We do currently have Ghostwise Halflings, though I don't think we've seen Strongheart yet. Here's the thing- 5e seems to be increasingly heading towards a system where Ability Scores and Races are not tied to one another, presumably in an effort to avoid pigeonholing Race X into Class Y but not Z. I'm not 100% sure about this approach, but their new content indicates that this is likely. The whole point of this thread was, since the went out of their way to make Small or Medium size a choice for some races, whether or not this trend would continue to make there a solid reason to choose Small over Medium, since, while Small has a few fringe benefits (Mounted Combat, which, uh, does anyone use it? All I've seen is arguments about how it works. Squeezing through smaller spaces, which is apparently not super valuable because Bugbears now gain it as part of their Stealthy. So that leaves us with- possibly getting more benefit from Cover/Concealment and moving through Large creature spaces), it also comes with a less fringe penalty, depending on your Class choice (some classes don't care about heavy weapons). They probably won't. But I thought it might be fun to speculate on whether or not they could. But now we're debating things like how it doesn't feel right for Halflings to be able to hit Strength 20, which is already something they could do, just now they are allowed to do it faster. That ship, I'm afraid, has sailed. WotC, by publishing MMM, has said, yes, going forward, this is the way it will be. So whether we like it or not likely doesn't matter*. The game has no stat penalties, and any character can reach the maximum in any ability score. *Unless people vote with their wallets and don't buy the new products, that is. But then we'll be splitting the community into people who play O5e and N5e. [/QUOTE]
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