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Message: <blockquote data-quote="havard" data-source="post: 5373904" data-attributes="member: 20941">It seems to me that Wesely brought a roleplaying element into the War Game Campaign framework. The first Braunstein at least, was part of a Napoleonics Game campaign. As the Braunstein variants continued, the focus shifted more and more from the War Game towards making the roleplaying the center of the game. One of the Braunstein variants that did this was called Blackmoor. What Arneson did, was to use the Chainmail Rules as a basis, place the game into a medieval fantasy setting and invent the Dungeon Crawl, which he soon after showed to Gary Gygax, before the two of them went on to create D&D. At which point does the game shift from being a War Game with Roleplaying Elements into becoming a Roleplaying Game? -Havard</blockquote>