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<blockquote data-quote="harami2000" data-source="post: 5378600" data-attributes="member: 26699">I'm not sure who Anderson is (the famous brothers Thomas &amp; Gerald, perhaps?) but in that particular case, yes EGG did indeed have so many other gaming interests ongoing from WW2 through Diplomacy and Space Gaming that he could quite easily have spent all his time on those. Given his wide background and involvement there's a chance he might've hit on &quot;RPGs&quot; (mid-late 1970s definition) independently, most obviously in 1970 with his own multi-scale game, but that never came to full fruition; and the conceptual efforts of his wargaming equivalent of the SCA didn't get there in its own right.The leap to &quot;first person immediate&quot; happened more than once no doubt but putting that into a formal, published game and storming the market was another matter.Bringing H.G. Wells into the equation - per the previous page - is probably a bit of push regarding &quot;RPGs&quot; but there were people playing ongoing campaigns using 6x6 diced tables for individual character background, casualties (think Traveller as well, perhaps? *g*), promotions before/between games, etc., and being careful to try not to get their key characters killed off during games back in the 1940s. And that /was/ on the direct line from Wells rather than Wesely's hook back to Totten.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="harami2000, post: 5378600, member: 26699"] I'm not sure who Anderson is (the famous brothers Thomas & Gerald, perhaps?) but in that particular case, yes EGG did indeed have so many other gaming interests ongoing from WW2 through Diplomacy and Space Gaming that he could quite easily have spent all his time on those. Given his wide background and involvement there's a chance he might've hit on "RPGs" (mid-late 1970s definition) independently, most obviously in 1970 with his own multi-scale game, but that never came to full fruition; and the conceptual efforts of his wargaming equivalent of the SCA didn't get there in its own right. The leap to "first person immediate" happened more than once no doubt but putting that into a formal, published game and storming the market was another matter. Bringing H.G. Wells into the equation - per the previous page - is probably a bit of push regarding "RPGs" but there were people playing ongoing campaigns using 6x6 diced tables for individual character background, casualties (think Traveller as well, perhaps? *g*), promotions before/between games, etc., and being careful to try not to get their key characters killed off during games back in the 1940s. And that /was/ on the direct line from Wells rather than Wesely's hook back to Totten. [/QUOTE]

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