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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5191190" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, you're changing the equation here.&nbsp; Sure, a semi-truck isn't broken because it requires a different skill set.&nbsp; However, we can still judge semi-trucks by those who possess the necessary skill sets.&nbsp; One semi may be better than another for a specific driver.So, even in games which appeal to a specific group, you can still have flawed mechanics if a large portion of that specific group has issues with it.Which brings me to my disagreement with BryonD:The presumption here though is there is some objective value of &quot;good tool&quot; when it comes to RPG's.&nbsp; For a hammer?&nbsp; Sure, no problem.&nbsp; You can have cheap, crappy hammers and great ones.&nbsp; But something as complex as a gaming system?&nbsp; Fergettaboutit.&nbsp; As was mentioned earlier, one person's good is another's broken.&nbsp; Trying to claim any sort of objective value of &quot;goodness&quot; in gaming systems is how fights start.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5191190, member: 22779"] But, you're changing the equation here. Sure, a semi-truck isn't broken because it requires a different skill set. However, we can still judge semi-trucks by those who possess the necessary skill sets. One semi may be better than another for a specific driver. So, even in games which appeal to a specific group, you can still have flawed mechanics if a large portion of that specific group has issues with it. Which brings me to my disagreement with BryonD: The presumption here though is there is some objective value of "good tool" when it comes to RPG's. For a hammer? Sure, no problem. You can have cheap, crappy hammers and great ones. But something as complex as a gaming system? Fergettaboutit. As was mentioned earlier, one person's good is another's broken. Trying to claim any sort of objective value of "goodness" in gaming systems is how fights start. [/QUOTE]

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