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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 7242228" data-attributes="member: 6688277">To answer your previous question about hiring an archer: If he was just a recruit (an NPC), then sure I might go for the better archer, but if we are discussing a PC that is different. There might be a backstory why he is an orator or diplomant. I might offer advice or a suggestion to the player on a PC build, afterall I play with friends and we have that level of comfort, but I will not force him to play anything he doesn't want to since that would probably be more detrimental to the group and the campaign. I certainly do not define non-optimisation as non-team player behaviour - just because you didnt up your STR as a fighter to 20 and instead opted to increase INT or CHA.Like I said in my initial post to you - I think we have differing playstyles, and that is ok. Even at our table we don't all build characters the same way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> There is also another factor which I believe can influence character design - one's recent character history: I'm currently involved in a Westeros (Song of Fire and Ice) game, in which I'm playing an optimised fighter type, somewhat of a confident, take-charge character. In a Pathfinder game we recently started, I'm playing a Gnome cleric specialised in all fields of Knowledge, Appraisal and Linguistics who doesn't carry a weapon and prefers to remain very much in the backround until he deems it necessary to offer advice/input/assistance.With the former character I drive the story as natural leader and through my actions, risking harm to myself to save others. In the Pathfinder game, I wanted to play someone less optimised and quite different to my Westeros warrior. The gnome drives the story through the information and insight he provides to the party. He is useful in combat, but much less useful than a fully optimised battle cleric. I would not consider him a non-team player.</blockquote>

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