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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7243426" data-attributes="member: 28301">First off, for the numbers guys if you use precision make them all hits.  No one at the table uses precision until they have a very good idea of what AC they are against and what they need to hit it.  If they need less than about +4 more to hit they will use precision, when its gets into the +6 or more they wont try it.  It will make the math a little easier also.  If you are an archer of course you would use precision also.  I never use it because in most groups you need more front-line then archer, which means more things like trip and riposte, buts that not relevant in this example.Second, like I said before, the fighter needs to out DPM the other martial classes by far more than it currently does since the other martial chassis offer more things and more entertaining things to do.  It needs to be like %15-25 more considering its supposed to be the classes hook.  Or if the fighter had abilities that handed out more conditions like proned, restrained or stunned.</blockquote>