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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7246907" data-attributes="member: 28301">You just missed the whole point.  Went right over your head.  The idea is that its a group setting, you can't go through the game world with "no one speaks except the PC with the highest charisma, no one touches anything without the rogue searching everything for traps, I optimized my fighter using CE and SS therefore if you use fog cloud to shut me down for one combat its unfair," attitude.  The idea is to reward the players for being creative with a PC idea that isn't just a direct optimization of a PC, often using the forums here.  CREATIVITY will be rewarded, you can actually play whatever you want.  I guess you are like the guy who said if your not optimizing your PC you cant play in his game and really don't deserve to play the game at all.  Do you guys run D&D adventures or mathematical simulation study groups?  Why do you play if you have it worked out in the beginning, its down to a percentage chance, with the DM having no say whatsoever except to be read the adventure locations for you and roll the dice for the bad guys.  Have you heard of Leroy Jenkins, do you get what makes it a famous meme is that the die hard optimizers panic and lose their <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> with no sense of humor at all (and get no chicken)?And this isn't a Fighter Optimization thread - its about how the fighter is UP compared to other options in the game and needs to be improved.  However it still got derailed, of which I am somewhat at fault.</blockquote>

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