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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7247399" data-attributes="member: 48965">Are you even reading what I posted... the average action hero in no way speaks to what an action hero does only that I'm tending to ignore extremes at the end of the spectrum.Still not seeing the double standard... Psionics is magic, in the same way Invocations, Ki and other things are magic... what it isn't is casting spells...Well that's one of your problems right there... D&D has never done... all fantasy ever created...as its genre.  Does any game? actually it pulled from mostly pulp ( and specifically sword and sorcery) sources for it's genesis... Yes it pulled from other sources but we are talking about the genre it's creators cited it as borrowing most heavily from.What double standard... magic let's you do things that you couldn't normally do?  again not a double standard, it's defining magic What's the difference a jump is a jump... right? But wasn't your point that the action of jumping was normal and thus jumping impossible distances (which could include through space, across other dimensions and across time) shouldn't take magic...  again I'm seeing arbitrary distinctions being made here.No it's not I'm leaping from one point to another point in all instances (the only difference is the distance, speed, etc  I am jumping... again arbitrary distinction.For the same reason you seem unwilling to acknowledge you are drawing arbitrary distinctions. Rocks can also be shattered by the right frequency, pitch, harmonics, etc... so can crystals...Plenty of people think jumping across dimensions and through space to the moon is impossible but the minute someone does it... they won't.  And the minute you're playing a bird, well flight won't be supernatural but if you choose to play a human it kind of is.</blockquote>

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