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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7252874" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Part of the problem with these comparisons is that other classes (the Rogue was provided as an example) can contribute meaningfully to combat, even if it may be less than the Fighter does. But very often with social or exploration challenges, it’s not a case of the whole party contributing. It’s one character...whoever is the best at what the situation calls for. Persuasion? Get the Bard over here...what? A high CHA Fighter with the Actor feat? Go secure the area while the Bard takes care of this, sport.The only way to “contribute meaningfully” to those encounters is to be the star of the show. To me that’s more about a flaw in encounters design or in running the game than it is about one class. In that scenario, the Bard is the ONLY one who contributes. Everyone else is sitting on the sidelines next to the Fighter.So the question seems to be, is there an example of a non-combat challenge at which the Fighter will excel over the other classes? And the answer is no. Mostly, this is because there’s no non-combat encounter for which only one class will be the clear leader...it doesn’t really exist. But what the Fighter does bring is the ability through the additional ASI/Feats to excel at an area the party might need. I think more than other classes the Fighter has the ability to shore up a shortcoming present in the party. They have more ASI/Feats to spare, so they can indeed take a non-combat feat or improve a non-combat stat without hampering their combat ability.</blockquote>

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