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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7255542" data-attributes="member: 996">It wouldn't be:  it'd also be a small amount of build-time versatility, trying to make up for an overall lack of capability, by competing with the tremendous in-play versatility of most other sub-classes.  Attaching non-combat perks to each style -  Duelist makes you better at reading people, Greatweapon makes you better at athletics, etc - would be a better approach, it wouldn't add much versatility, but would add some out-of-combat capability. Popularity is it's own thing.  The 'reasons' behind it are varied and unpredictable and rarely have anything to do with logic or the objective qualities of the thing in question.Coke doesn't objectively 'taste better' than any other sufficiently-vile sugar(high-fructose-corn-syrup)-sweetened cola drink, but it's the most popular vile, overly-sweet cola drink.  A Vulcan surveying earth people on how they feel about each objective quality & ingredient of coke, would conclude that few thinking beings would ever touch the stuff, let alone pay for the privilege of being slowly poisoned by it.  They would be wrong.  Not because they're wrong about what coke is, just because they didn't control for how illogical humans are.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The popularity of the fighter proves the fighter is popular.  It doesn't disprove any objective qualities of the fighter class design.  At worst, it might prove that players like bad designs and enjoy playing strictly inferior characters.  ;P   At best, it might prove that many players are above such considerations and many DMs well-able to compensate for such issues in play.  IMHO, the most likely causation is neither of those, but simply that the most popular character concepts can only be approached with the fighter class (followed closely by those for which the rogue, wizard, & barbarian are most appropriate or intuitive).So, yes, it's very like your ipod example.</blockquote>

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