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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7256108" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Well, this has been pointed out to you in every fighter thread, and at least a couple times here. They get two extra feats no one else gets that either a: give you the choice to do a ton of other things other classes can't via feats, or b: give you higher chances of succeeding on ability checks, attack rolls, and saving throws via ASIs if you don't use feats in the game. In both cases, these are bonuses that can be used over and over without needing rests to recharge for the most part. So not only is this something the fighter gets no one else does, but the other classes can't "do it far more often than the fighter can."</p><p></p><p></p><p>No one else gets two extra ASIs</p><p>You can choose to use them on things that greatly increase contribution outside of combat without sacrificing anything because you still have 4 ASIs to bolster primary class features.</p><p></p><p>Why do you keep ignoring this like it's not a thing? Do you have severe reading comprehension issues? Are you being intentionally dishonest in your argument? I honestly don't know, but can only come to some assumptions because your argument has been debunked over and over and over just in this thread alone and you continue to say it. This is not a different opinion. These are objective facts because we can point to the book where it says they get these things. The fighter does have an out of combat identity. It's call <em>choice</em>. I.e., rather than have a hard baked in unique out of combat feature, you have the choice in what feature you want to use. That does not mean it doesn't exist. If they don't, it only means you <em>chose </em>not to use it that way.</p><p></p><p>It's like you're arguing that AWD versions of the Ford Fusion don't exist because it's not a base feature of the model. They give you that option when you choose the car. If you choose not to get that option, doesn't mean it's not a feature of the model. And personally, I'd rather have the option of choosing rather than have every model have AWD if I don't need or want it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7256108, member: 15700"] Well, this has been pointed out to you in every fighter thread, and at least a couple times here. They get two extra feats no one else gets that either a: give you the choice to do a ton of other things other classes can't via feats, or b: give you higher chances of succeeding on ability checks, attack rolls, and saving throws via ASIs if you don't use feats in the game. In both cases, these are bonuses that can be used over and over without needing rests to recharge for the most part. So not only is this something the fighter gets no one else does, but the other classes can't "do it far more often than the fighter can." No one else gets two extra ASIs You can choose to use them on things that greatly increase contribution outside of combat without sacrificing anything because you still have 4 ASIs to bolster primary class features. Why do you keep ignoring this like it's not a thing? Do you have severe reading comprehension issues? Are you being intentionally dishonest in your argument? I honestly don't know, but can only come to some assumptions because your argument has been debunked over and over and over just in this thread alone and you continue to say it. This is not a different opinion. These are objective facts because we can point to the book where it says they get these things. The fighter does have an out of combat identity. It's call [I]choice[/I]. I.e., rather than have a hard baked in unique out of combat feature, you have the choice in what feature you want to use. That does not mean it doesn't exist. If they don't, it only means you [I]chose [/I]not to use it that way. It's like you're arguing that AWD versions of the Ford Fusion don't exist because it's not a base feature of the model. They give you that option when you choose the car. If you choose not to get that option, doesn't mean it's not a feature of the model. And personally, I'd rather have the option of choosing rather than have every model have AWD if I don't need or want it. [/QUOTE]
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