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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9168414" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I don't think I agree with this, a martial can get Cantrips and the Shield spell from a 1-level dip, and you can add Sorcerer or Warlock subclass abilities.   There are very few martial buildslevel 3-20 that would not be better with a level of Cleric, Wizard, Sorcerer or  Hexblade Warlock at every level except 5.Full casters on the other hand pay a high price for multiclassing into anything other than another full caster, and even if you are multiclassing into another full caster you are still losing your highest level spells, with some combos your highest two levels of spells.Martials can delay extra attack by taking a dip, but the only character level that generally matters is 5th level, and you can mitigate that to a degree with the blade cantrips.  A full caster on the other hand that dips a level is out her highest level spell every odd level, if she dips a non-caster she is out a level worth of slots as well.Right now I am playing a character that is a Damphir 3rd level Long Death Monk/1st Level Death Cleric.  Next level she is going to take a level in Shadow Sorcerer, getting the Blade cantrips exactly when they scale up as well as shield, Absorb Elements and Strength of the Grave.  I think at 5th level this multiclass will be more powerful than she would be as a straight 5th level Monk with 5 Ki, Extra Attack and Stunning Strike.</blockquote>