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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9185972" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Please provide this data that shows this to be true then.  Not opinions but actual evidence.As a point of fact, 5E is not well balanced at all levels and it has far exceeded the original goals for which it was designed.That doesn't prove anything of course, but neither does your statement above with no supporting evidence.You and others keep saying this, but that doesn't make it true.Just because game designers claim to seek it doesn't make it true either.  FWIW I am not sure you can say they seek balance in 5E especially given the changes both implemented and recommended to certain classes, subclasses and races.If they are actually seeking balance then why was the Twilight Cleric published?  Why was the Gloomstalker published and worse not nerfed in ONE?  Why were objectively more powerful races published after the PHB and why was one of the most powerful PHB races, Mountain Dwarf, made more powerful still with proficiency trading?  Why are Wizards continually made more powerful at higher levels with every new publication?Are we to believe that the game designers don't realize these imbalances exist?  While I am at it, wouldn't the alleged existence of the  "Wizard mafia" itself imply that they are interested in not balancing classes?</blockquote>