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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9189286" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Well the EK has spells, which as you noted can be used OOC.But it sounds like you are saying this has been fixed with later game changes?Certainly the later fighter subclasses are more potent, especially OOC, than the earlier ones in general, but the three eariest subclasses seem to be those most commonly played in 5E.  I see alot of Rune Knights and a fair amount of Echo Knights.  I also personally play Arcane Archers a lot but no one else at my tables seems to.   The rest I have only seen one or two played.  If you take Battlemaster and Champion, I think I see more of those than I do all of the other subclasses combined.I do have an idea for an Eldritch Knight I want to play.  I want to play a high strength, int dump, max Charisma Drow EK who takes Fey Touched, Drow High Magic and Magic Initiate Warlock.  Get a background with Charisma skills, Hex through Fey Touched and Armor of Agathys, GFB and Eldritch Blast from Magic inititate.   I will need good rolls to make this work  though, probably at least a 16 strength and 17 Charisma after race bonuses to start.  I think that character will be pretty awesome, use all my EK spells on stuff intelligence does not matter for - PEG, Blur, Shield, Absorb Elements, Mirror Image, Booming Blade, Friends ....  This would be really good in one of those campaigns that lets you get a weak feat like Magic Initiate at 1st level.</blockquote>

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