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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 9190751" data-attributes="member: 7025282">This last bit is what I keep tripping over.In tons of posts above, I keep hearing that fighters are disliked and I am not trying to be obtuse (maybe it comes naturally!) but every source I know suggests they’re popular.I did see a few posts saying certain subclasses don’t resonate but there are so many I am not sure they all have to land for the class to be popular.I am still trying to find a reason to believe there is more to this than a subset—a minority—of people don’t like fighters.When you ask how do you know nobody likes them? More arguments about why the individual poster does not like them.And again I am legitimately asking where this comes from because I like them fine…my tables like them fine…they seem to be the most common class chosen online…That does not mean they are “good” but one thing at a time.  The assertion is they are not popular and no one likes them. The second is that they are weak (or rather some subclasses are weak under certain conditions) which is not synonymous with the fighter being a bad class overall.To support this, I am hearing arguments about them not having many choices.  But from an overall game perspective, why shouldn’t there be some classes that are simpler than others?As I said previously barring some pretty good evidence this seems to boils down to a “I prefer x over y” and that is great!  But it is not a truth about the game.  What am I missing?Lastly, in the games I play in or DM, the party takes on challenges and the fighters are always in the thick of it.  What are all of us doing that is so aberrant?</blockquote>

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