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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 9190854" data-attributes="member: 7025282">I read your response and appreciate it. That said it is does not really move the dial on  things I mentioned.Fwiw, I play with folks that are all fairly intelligent.  All but one with graduate degrees and professions in sciences or healthcare.  All of that only to say they have shown the ability to think flexibly or learn complex material.We played wargames including things like starfleet battles back in the day.  We’re not newbs that cannot handle options.And fighters are frequently in the party and enjoyed.  I think simpler choices as “choices” are a fine thing.  And I sometimes want more dials and play my barbarian warlock (blade boon).I just so not think simpler is synonymous with no fun.  Actually from a roleplaying perspective I think they are as satisfying as more complex characters and in dungeons certainly tactically fun.In sum what I am saying is opinion only and as I suggest is merely a counter to other opinions.I will say that I believe fighters to be fun to play.  I think many others agree and that there is nothing I am seeing to suggest otherwise.  That is I am not seeing much evidence to suggest they are not popular though I realize opinions differ.I would be highly unlikely to play an lore bard or a monk <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging    :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> and I don’t think that makes lore bards “bad” per se</blockquote>

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