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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9203736" data-attributes="member: 7030563">The would not be more complex, they just don't have the same story/wow elements that spells have and I think for that reason most people don't want them.My 2nd level spell was Hold Person, now I am third level and can throw a huge ball of fire is cool.A martial that could stun an oppenent at 3rd level and then at 5th can damage everyone within 30 feet with an attack action is largely the same mechanic and no more complex than the spells, but I don't think most players want or care about this at their table.&nbsp; I don't think it ads much to the story or character for most players.There are some, but I think it is a relatively small minority of players overall.&nbsp; It is probably at least a plurality of players who post on forums like this though.That statement works both ways, and I would argue WOTC is going to cater to the majority and the other side can homebrew if they can find a group of players that see things their way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9203736, member: 7030563"] The would not be more complex, they just don't have the same story/wow elements that spells have and I think for that reason most people don't want them. My 2nd level spell was Hold Person, now I am third level and can throw a huge ball of fire is cool. A martial that could stun an oppenent at 3rd level and then at 5th can damage everyone within 30 feet with an attack action is largely the same mechanic and no more complex than the spells, but I don't think most players want or care about this at their table. I don't think it ads much to the story or character for most players. There are some, but I think it is a relatively small minority of players overall. It is probably at least a plurality of players who post on forums like this though. That statement works both ways, and I would argue WOTC is going to cater to the majority and the other side can homebrew if they can find a group of players that see things their way. [/QUOTE]

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