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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 9362989" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>And a level 1 4e fighter does many things you cannot do with that till level 18... and its abilities are in conflict with things which should be built on top of the design is patch work and bad.  Shrug I can see reasons for not playing it that are unrelated to the fantasy. A 4e fighter can with only a small portion of its character design choices be a wall of steel nearly impossible to run past at level 1 and painful if you try.</p></blockquote><p></p>