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<blockquote data-quote="Warmaster Horus" data-source="post: 7099593" data-attributes="member: 6785438">So I keep hearing how generic the subclasses of fighter are and non-optimal to the fighting craft they appear to be.&nbsp; But it's really just a matter of what you do with your character that defines them.&nbsp; I personally don't want a ton of baked-in stuff that may not fit the vision of MY fighter.&nbsp; I read a comment in the recent Unearthed Arcana thread about the Favored Soul and how the poster didn't like that the Cure Wounds spell was a mandatory addition as it didn't fit their concept of the archetype.&nbsp; In the end fighters are what the players put into them using the options they're presented and elements not necessarily in the class descriptor.&nbsp; Yeah, the paladin is awesome (my highest level PC started as a Paladin) but I started seeing single-classed fighters after 11th level and came to appreciate what they were bringing to the show.&nbsp; So I don't think the fighter is as weak as all that has been intimated.&nbsp; But I wouldn't turn away new options in the future that provided something appealing to those who want it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warmaster Horus, post: 7099593, member: 6785438"] So I keep hearing how generic the subclasses of fighter are and non-optimal to the fighting craft they appear to be. But it's really just a matter of what you do with your character that defines them. I personally don't want a ton of baked-in stuff that may not fit the vision of MY fighter. I read a comment in the recent Unearthed Arcana thread about the Favored Soul and how the poster didn't like that the [I]Cure Wounds[/I] spell was a mandatory addition as it didn't fit their concept of the archetype. In the end fighters are what the players put into them using the options they're presented and elements not necessarily in the class descriptor. Yeah, the paladin is awesome (my highest level PC started as a Paladin) but I started seeing single-classed fighters after 11th level and came to appreciate what they were bringing to the show. So I don't think the fighter is as weak as all that has been intimated. But I wouldn't turn away new options in the future that provided something appealing to those who want it. [/QUOTE]

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