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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7100262" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Irrelevant to the point I was responding to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not even a fighting style, so I don't even know what you're referring to here. As I explained, the fighting styles benefit an element of bounded accuracy, which by-definition scales, so what does that have anything to do with a Battlemaster? It's a generic benefit for all fighters.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet it scales, which is what I was replying to. Nobody was saying it was perfectly equal to some other element in the game which also scales, I was just replying to "doesn't scale". It does.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it's not. It grants a complete additional action. Your additional action carries with it however many attacks you have, and number of attacks scales with level. Therefore it's an ability which scales per level. Even the guy you were agreeing with agrees with me that action surge scales well with level. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) irrelevant, I was replying to whether it scales, not if someone else also gets it, and 2) even if I were making an argument about uniqueness (which I was not) fighters uniquely get more feats than any other class in the game. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Irrelevant. It scales with level. Again, you're conflating "not as good as I'd make it" or "not as good as some other classes ability" with "doesn't scale". </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Question: Does extra attack scale with level? Answer: Yes. </p><p></p><p></p><p>We're talking past each other, but I don't see how I have any fault in that. This is the point I made in the post you quoted, "Every single Fighter ability in your list either scales or benefits a Bounded Accuracy game feature (which of course scales)". </p><p></p><p>You keep replying to the strawmans of "as good as X ability" or "not unique". I didn't make those arguments about how good X ability is compared to Y ability nor whether X ability is unique in the post you're quoting, so why do you keep replying to me as if I did?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7100262, member: 2525"] Irrelevant to the point I was responding to. Not even a fighting style, so I don't even know what you're referring to here. As I explained, the fighting styles benefit an element of bounded accuracy, which by-definition scales, so what does that have anything to do with a Battlemaster? It's a generic benefit for all fighters. And yet it scales, which is what I was replying to. Nobody was saying it was perfectly equal to some other element in the game which also scales, I was just replying to "doesn't scale". It does. No it's not. It grants a complete additional action. Your additional action carries with it however many attacks you have, and number of attacks scales with level. Therefore it's an ability which scales per level. Even the guy you were agreeing with agrees with me that action surge scales well with level. 1) irrelevant, I was replying to whether it scales, not if someone else also gets it, and 2) even if I were making an argument about uniqueness (which I was not) fighters uniquely get more feats than any other class in the game. Irrelevant. It scales with level. Again, you're conflating "not as good as I'd make it" or "not as good as some other classes ability" with "doesn't scale". Question: Does extra attack scale with level? Answer: Yes. We're talking past each other, but I don't see how I have any fault in that. This is the point I made in the post you quoted, "Every single Fighter ability in your list either scales or benefits a Bounded Accuracy game feature (which of course scales)". You keep replying to the strawmans of "as good as X ability" or "not unique". I didn't make those arguments about how good X ability is compared to Y ability nor whether X ability is unique in the post you're quoting, so why do you keep replying to me as if I did? [/QUOTE]
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