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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Njall" data-source="post: 6878704" data-attributes="member: 54719">...I'm overstating the issue that those "extra" ASI are budgeted and not free and fighters getting as many class abilities as as anyone else including their extra ASI means they actually get fewer unique class abilities?How so? You just proved as much.To clarify, I'm not saying that this is necessarily a balance issue, or that fighters lack unique class skills, and those ASI/Feats can be used to good effect; just that they're often brought up like they're something unique in the fighter's toolkit.They're not, they're just more class abilities, and fighters get as many class abilities as anyone else,  (or arguably slightly fewer, going by your count) including ASI.</blockquote>