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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Veon Brighteyes" data-source="post: 4265454" data-attributes="member: 63922">WHOA! Stop the car right there! I've been a lurker for some time, but seeing this going unanswered made it almost a duty to post.Yes, there is a BIG difference between a bloodthirsty terrorist and a philantropist. For God sakes, have you ever researched the life of "El Cancho" (the Pig, posthumously known as "Che" Guevara) beyond advertising and T-shirts? This man has laid waste to everywhere he has been and commited inumerous atrocities in Congo and Bolivia (including torture, cold blooded murder of his own followers and genocides), and people just worship him thanks to the mistification done with his name. He never defended freedom, he fought in favour of dictatorships and tyrannies. I as a latin american feel very disapointed at this horrible man being one of the most known icons of our people.Anyways, I didn't mean to get political, but I felt it was necessary. As for the alignment, do you see how it's complicated? Would you consider Milton Friedman chaotic or lawful? He was a libertarian... but he also believed in the importance of strong institutions. Now, using historical examples, were the american revolutionaries lawful or chaotic? You could argue that they were chaotic for their love for freedom. But they also created an structured society with a constitution and laws to which all would abide. Almost all revolutionaries don't fight AGAINST order, they fight to create a NEW order, and that has been the rule throughout human history. And that's why the chaotic - lawful axis has always been very confusing, people hardly ever agree on what is chaotic and lawful, and out of misleading simplification they tend to see lawful as "law abiding", when it actually is belief in structure, order and organization. Chaotic, on the other hand, is individualist, impulsive and more akin to change, but not disorganized or lunatic.But, let me ask you, is there really big of a difference between chaotic neutral and simply neutral as there is between neutral good and neutral? And chaotic good and neutral good have always been much more alike than neutral good and lawful good.</blockquote>

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