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<blockquote data-quote="Patrick McGill" data-source="post: 7434226" data-attributes="member: 6749334"><p>I highly doubt this will be the final word. All the RPG forums would shut down without this frankly tangential side of the games, wherein experts white room a million possibilities that hardly ever happen at a real table.</p><p></p><p>I play a lot of martial characters. I've played a champion without feats. I have never felt like I was holding the group back or wasn't holding my own. I had, in fact, had a lot of amazing moments of fun and was quite often the killing blow on many monsters. Now, I didn't measure the DPR of the group. I didn't record every attack and try to figure out if someone was doing more damage in a session on average than other folks. I didn't need to, though, because there didn't seem to be a problem. We weren't min maxers or optimisers by any means, but we did put our ability scores where they were most needed for the class and build.</p><p></p><p>I have also played a Cavalier with a shield and a lance on horseback and it was a super amount of fun. Charging and just crushing an enemy with a lance crit, and not having to sacrifice my shield AC bonus to wield a d12 weapon was delicious.</p><p></p><p>As has been repeated here and everywhere when you start to white room and go by the numbers without accounting for the near endless contexts and circumstances I think makes issues seem a lot bigger than they ever will be at the table.</p><p></p><p>And that's (not) my final word on the subject.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patrick McGill, post: 7434226, member: 6749334"] I highly doubt this will be the final word. All the RPG forums would shut down without this frankly tangential side of the games, wherein experts white room a million possibilities that hardly ever happen at a real table. I play a lot of martial characters. I've played a champion without feats. I have never felt like I was holding the group back or wasn't holding my own. I had, in fact, had a lot of amazing moments of fun and was quite often the killing blow on many monsters. Now, I didn't measure the DPR of the group. I didn't record every attack and try to figure out if someone was doing more damage in a session on average than other folks. I didn't need to, though, because there didn't seem to be a problem. We weren't min maxers or optimisers by any means, but we did put our ability scores where they were most needed for the class and build. I have also played a Cavalier with a shield and a lance on horseback and it was a super amount of fun. Charging and just crushing an enemy with a lance crit, and not having to sacrifice my shield AC bonus to wield a d12 weapon was delicious. As has been repeated here and everywhere when you start to white room and go by the numbers without accounting for the near endless contexts and circumstances I think makes issues seem a lot bigger than they ever will be at the table. And that's (not) my final word on the subject. [/QUOTE]
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