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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9846642" data-attributes="member: 7043270">But the amount of multi attacks was never that big. It is also in pre essential 4e just a small part of the attacks to strikers.The problem is more that the  optinization crowd for some reason assumed that this 10% should be the baseline. If we just assume othet attacks as a baseline then essential classes are fine. Even multiattacks are fine in general if you dont invest too much into optimizing them.I like what essentials did with the scout, backing in the multi attack into the class as a feature instead of attacks. Vampire for me has cool flavour and different gameplay and it works well together with warlord or other attack granting characters. He has more control and more survivability than a normal striker, its just the firdt phew levels which can feel bad, and of course the mid levels if you just compare your damage to a striker.</blockquote>