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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9651666" data-attributes="member: 2525">Because the post you linked to of mine, without direct reference, was about the podcast. Which you knew, because you had just linked to it without replying to it to start this thread, remember?Saying "see the record" without linking to the record or referencing a specific part of it isn't a citation. I also said "see the record" and you found that pretty unacceptable, remember?No, and this is the first time I am calling you a liar. You literally just quoted my post where I explained, in multiple paragraphs, how I am happy to go through all the points made and encourage you to go through them all as well, but I wanted TO START WITH THE FIRST POINT MADE and see if you really were interested in discussing it or just cherry picking.To which you literally just cherry picked it out of context, again knowing the context was my saying let's do all the points. You cannot have missed it. Which is why I am saying you're lying about what I just did.No I said you stated a falsehood which I think you believe despite having claimed to have listened to the podcast and heard Rose Estes and others say how shocked they were.And Rose Estes is not fairly characterized as "someone somewhere" she is a prominent voice on the very podcast you linked to. Nor was she the only one. Are you denying that or do I need to go back to that episode and quote you word for word others before you take responsibility here for stating a falsehood?Yes we're both referring to the events of the ouster which is directly what Rose Estes says she is shocked about. Those events were so secret at the time that even Gary didn't know it was Williams behind it until it came out in court. Even after the board meeting he still didn't know Williams had bought the Bloome's stock. But you were arguing nobody at TSR was shocked it happened except Gary despite only 6 total people knowing about it in a company of hundreds.I was obviously referencing the larger company. WHICH YOU KNEW BECAUSE YOU KNEW ROSE ESTES WAS NOT AT THAT BOARD MEETING AND I QUOTED HER REACTION. And your statement never referenced the board meeting either. Indeed, your quote was, "the only person surprised by Gygax's ouster was Gygax. If Gygax had not been ousted, the company would have failed." You're saying the ouster itself, not the the meeting, is your reference. And that it's relevant because of "the company" and not "the board meeting." It's very clear the way you wrote it you're referring to the company at large (it's employees) and their lack of surprise at his ouster from the company. And now you're backtracking to pretend it was just about the board meeting itself (though Gary was still part of the company when he left that meeting, he just wasn't CEO or Chairman).My man, the only "sources" you've cited were: 1) my post, unattributed, 2) the podcast (which is what my post was in reaction to, in a thread about it), and 3) the book, broadly speaking without specific reference. You claim to have referenced the court transcript, without a link to that or citation to any specific part of it, knowing nobody is just going to go dig that up to serve your demands on that.So let's talk about it: does the book ever claim nobody at TSR was shocked by Gary's ouster, in contradiction to what Rose Estes said? If so, please name me who is disagreeing in the book with that claim.Again, once I can pin you down to a non-shifting answer on this first point I am happy to move on to the next one. I'm fine going all the down to the Malcolm Gladwell point, which I again is deeply ironic given your consistent position regarding Williams despite new facts being introduced which should be changing your view if you're willing to objectively re-examine them.</blockquote>

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