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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9651946" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I am not in any way asking him to hate Williams. I pointed out in the other thread some serious failings of Williams with direct reasons. Snarf then quoted that post by linking to it, then ranted about Revisionist History and how people get stuck thinking something based on rumored conventional wisdom without ever questioning that narrative - clearly in reaction to my post.</p><p></p><p><strong>He doesn't want people criticizing her. </strong>He's effectively saying <strong>any </strong>criticism of Williams, even well documented criticism directly from the Podcast he and I both listened to, is not just unwarranted but a sign someone is failing to question the Williams narrative from long ago. Which I found pretty insulting since my view of her was not based on some rumors from long ago or some existing zeitgeist, but on the things I directly quoted from the podcast.</p><p></p><p>I've been really clear I think Gygax is worse than Williams. But equally clear that Williams should also be criticized for many really nasty things she did. Things well documented in the podcast, with direct testimony of people who were there. </p><p></p><p>Snarf refuses to criticize her, and attacks anyone who does. Like he did with me and the Revisionist History reference.</p><p></p><p>That's the issue I have. That he can't stand any criticism of Williams and is at best dismissive of it and more often directly aggressive and derisive of it. </p><p></p><p>And I note the irony of it - he bashes be with that rant about Revisionist History (unjustly) and failing to question bias, when he won't assess his own biases concerning Williams.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9651946, member: 2525"] I am not in any way asking him to hate Williams. I pointed out in the other thread some serious failings of Williams with direct reasons. Snarf then quoted that post by linking to it, then ranted about Revisionist History and how people get stuck thinking something based on rumored conventional wisdom without ever questioning that narrative - clearly in reaction to my post. [B]He doesn't want people criticizing her. [/B]He's effectively saying [B]any [/B]criticism of Williams, even well documented criticism directly from the Podcast he and I both listened to, is not just unwarranted but a sign someone is failing to question the Williams narrative from long ago. Which I found pretty insulting since my view of her was not based on some rumors from long ago or some existing zeitgeist, but on the things I directly quoted from the podcast. I've been really clear I think Gygax is worse than Williams. But equally clear that Williams should also be criticized for many really nasty things she did. Things well documented in the podcast, with direct testimony of people who were there. Snarf refuses to criticize her, and attacks anyone who does. Like he did with me and the Revisionist History reference. That's the issue I have. That he can't stand any criticism of Williams and is at best dismissive of it and more often directly aggressive and derisive of it. And I note the irony of it - he bashes be with that rant about Revisionist History (unjustly) and failing to question bias, when he won't assess his own biases concerning Williams. [/QUOTE]
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