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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 1634321" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>Ok. Not sure how I feel on this class. While the idea seems simple enough, I am not sure how the straight HD per day option will work. Overall, I think it is very week - especially at low levels. You have worst BAB (I would up this to Medium BAB so that forms are worthwhile), only d6 HD, mediocre skills at best, and can shift a very limited number of times and for a very short duration, and you have to “prepare” your forms ahead of time.</p><p></p><p>At 1st level, with a 14 INT you can shift into up to 4HD of creature, that’s at most four 1HD creatures for all of 1 minute each, which really wont be good for much since you still retain the bad BAB and low HD. At 20th level with an 18 INT you gain 44HD. That’s only two 20HD creatures and a 4HD creatures for all of 20 minutes each.</p><p></p><p>In most games – these forms wont accomplish much. Even as utility forms such as an animal for movement at low levels – how far will it get you in 1 minute? Overall the class can only perform its function a very small number of times per day and then becomes basically worthless. Maybe that is balanced with the Wizard, but a wizard’s spells can be more versatile than the ability to change form.</p><p></p><p>Personal note - I am also not sure I like the Summon Familiar. Anyone who’s read my sorcerer thread knows my overall feeling on familiars, but overall I don’t really seeing it fit with this class concept.</p><p></p><p>I am also not sure on the Feat strings. You offer 9 feats out of an available 5 to the class, many being chains. Why not make these a part of the class? Stagger the 9 abilities over the 20 levels, giving the class an increased growth and expansion of their abilities more than simply the HD/day. I would some measure of “Monstrous” bonus feat to make more use of their forms.</p><p></p><p>You might also want to look at changing HD to CR. There are many creatures that have a higher CR than they have HD. I would also explicitly state that no form can be learned with a template – only the base creature may be assumed.</p><p></p><p>Just my 1st initial thoughts. Overall, I just don’t see it as very viable right now. Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 1634321, member: 2167"] Ok. Not sure how I feel on this class. While the idea seems simple enough, I am not sure how the straight HD per day option will work. Overall, I think it is very week - especially at low levels. You have worst BAB (I would up this to Medium BAB so that forms are worthwhile), only d6 HD, mediocre skills at best, and can shift a very limited number of times and for a very short duration, and you have to “prepare” your forms ahead of time. At 1st level, with a 14 INT you can shift into up to 4HD of creature, that’s at most four 1HD creatures for all of 1 minute each, which really wont be good for much since you still retain the bad BAB and low HD. At 20th level with an 18 INT you gain 44HD. That’s only two 20HD creatures and a 4HD creatures for all of 20 minutes each. In most games – these forms wont accomplish much. Even as utility forms such as an animal for movement at low levels – how far will it get you in 1 minute? Overall the class can only perform its function a very small number of times per day and then becomes basically worthless. Maybe that is balanced with the Wizard, but a wizard’s spells can be more versatile than the ability to change form. Personal note - I am also not sure I like the Summon Familiar. Anyone who’s read my sorcerer thread knows my overall feeling on familiars, but overall I don’t really seeing it fit with this class concept. I am also not sure on the Feat strings. You offer 9 feats out of an available 5 to the class, many being chains. Why not make these a part of the class? Stagger the 9 abilities over the 20 levels, giving the class an increased growth and expansion of their abilities more than simply the HD/day. I would some measure of “Monstrous” bonus feat to make more use of their forms. You might also want to look at changing HD to CR. There are many creatures that have a higher CR than they have HD. I would also explicitly state that no form can be learned with a template – only the base creature may be assumed. Just my 1st initial thoughts. Overall, I just don’t see it as very viable right now. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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