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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 1634373" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>NP. I like to help when I can - even if its just bouncing ideas or concreting you on your original ideas.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Might have to play with some examples. If you do increase the HD/day, yopu might need to make a second column of information listing the highest HD specific form taken per level. For example, at 1st level you may have 6HD/day but can only take the form of 2HD creatures. This will prevent abuses.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Toss in a link to the thread? I couldnt seem to find it.</p><p>As for the CR vs HD, it might be worthwhile to put a little data together comparing creatures at key points like 2HD vs 2CR, 5HD vs 5CR, 10HD vs 10CR, etc. and see what the differences look like. In general I think CR is a better scale of "power" than HD.</p><p></p><p>Also... do you plan to allow 1/2 and 1/4 HD (or CR) forms?</p><p></p><p></p><p>This would be on par with the Druid's Wild shape. I think, considering that the class has no spellcasting or other abilities as does the Druid, that 1 hour per level would be fair and much more useful. Thus at 20th level, they could take the form of a decently powerful creature and remain in that form for the majority of the day instead of wasting their entire class's ability in two 20-minute shots for the day.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This makes sense in its concept. However, I'm still not convinced the familiar works, but thats your call, since I am biased against them anyway. As for the feats, I can understand the premise, but it may tend to make them a bit weak. I would have to see some test runs.</p><p></p><p>Hope that helps some.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 1634373, member: 2167"] NP. I like to help when I can - even if its just bouncing ideas or concreting you on your original ideas. Might have to play with some examples. If you do increase the HD/day, yopu might need to make a second column of information listing the highest HD specific form taken per level. For example, at 1st level you may have 6HD/day but can only take the form of 2HD creatures. This will prevent abuses. Toss in a link to the thread? I couldnt seem to find it. As for the CR vs HD, it might be worthwhile to put a little data together comparing creatures at key points like 2HD vs 2CR, 5HD vs 5CR, 10HD vs 10CR, etc. and see what the differences look like. In general I think CR is a better scale of "power" than HD. Also... do you plan to allow 1/2 and 1/4 HD (or CR) forms? This would be on par with the Druid's Wild shape. I think, considering that the class has no spellcasting or other abilities as does the Druid, that 1 hour per level would be fair and much more useful. Thus at 20th level, they could take the form of a decently powerful creature and remain in that form for the majority of the day instead of wasting their entire class's ability in two 20-minute shots for the day. This makes sense in its concept. However, I'm still not convinced the familiar works, but thats your call, since I am biased against them anyway. As for the feats, I can understand the premise, but it may tend to make them a bit weak. I would have to see some test runs. Hope that helps some. [/QUOTE]
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